Therefore, any deliberate activation of the sexual function outside the proper stat… /r/Catholic is a place to present new developments in the world of Catholicism, discuss theological teachings of the Catholic Church, provide an avenue for reasonable dialogue amongst people of all beliefs, and grow in our own spirituality. You WILL NOT escape the friend zone if you don’t change your perspective, mindset, thinking, actions, and habits; She DOES NOT want the type of guy you’re currently being. It makes me sick to my stomach how the Church knows about the abuses done to people yet they don’t do anything about the problem and shove it under the rug. Which is why he stayed alive for so long. So when man makes laws which are consistent with God's will we must respect that they protect good people from bad even if they are sometimes used to protect the bad. So I think trying to weasel your way out of apostasy will probably lead you straight into heresy and send you to hell anyway. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. No priests, no popes, no dogma, and the same accepting, progressive views I already had. Everyone is pretty lapsed or Catholic in name only, especially my mother. The South Tyrol, then, was the all-important escape hatch for Nazi criminals, and it was Catholic priests and prelates who held the key to it. It was the first time I really looked at the flaws in the church. The Author. The abuse and subsequent cover-up/whitewashing is absolutely inexcusable IMO. Thanks! > **Note: This subreddit is a support forum and not a … It was not a trick or or legal loophole. I got involved with Catholicism starting summer of 2017 when I was searching for something more spiritually. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Directors: Jim Wheat, Ken Wheat | Stars: Wilford Brimley, Warwick Davis, Aubree Miller, Siân Phillips. Looking back it nearly drove me insane. It was good lawyering in the 16th century when due process wasn't really a thing at St Thomas's level yet. Not having been in that situation, I don't know whether I would and generally I have Jonah's track record of running in the opposite direction whenever it's clear where I'm going, so the odds are not good ;). Then, too, there is a tradition that Our Lady prayed for this man’s conversion because he was one of the robbers who took pity on the Holy Family when they were traveling in Egypt to escape Herod. It’s absolutely immoral to have gay sex, but only for fellow Catholics. Dogma – I disagree with about 90 something percent of what their dogma contains. /r/Catholicism is a place to present new developments in the world of Catholicism, discuss theological teachings of the Catholic Church, provide an avenue for reasonable dialogue amongst people of all beliefs, and grow in our own spirituality. I found a faith that focused on the individual's relationship with God. Regardless of the church's teachings, I would try to ignore it. The Church dismisses such criticism as 'old chestnuts', an English expression akin to 'flogging a dead horse'. 4.2 out of 5 stars 1,608. So I was thinking about St. Thomas More and how we relied on a legal principle "silence implies consent" so as to escape committing explicit treason. Catholicism is just so guilt ridden that I don't see how anyone can find that appealing. Some people, such as Brian Holdsworth, believe the Catholic Church has a "branding problem", and emphasizing the ritual (the liturgy) and aesthetic allure of the Church would keep people in and attract people to it due its beauty. You summed it up very very well. I was raised by progressive parents that taught us to accept everyone as they are but was frustrated that my religion didn't feel the same way. The men in Rome get to have all the gay sex they want with male prostitutes with no consequences. I think "legal marriage" is a misnomer, in fact it's "legal recognition of marriage". Accused of sexually … A person caught in the heteronomous snare of scrupulosity is poised for two possibilities: escaping into the opposite extreme of autonomy or giving others such a heteronomous snapshot of Catholicism that they flee toward autonomy. He's a surprisingly good author, very humble about the limits of knowledge, but also very passionate. No matter what your belief now, or if you have no belief at all. Catholic Christianity offers the world the fullness of the Christian Faith. How they handle abuse cases – another not-so-secret fact about the church is the amount of abuse church leaders have caused. The Church does seem to have a rich intellectual history, but you have aptly pointed out the use of logical fallacies used to support its dogma. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This subreddit is for any and all ex-Catholics to talk, educate, discuss and maybe even bitch about their experiences within the Catholic Church. Consider St. James Intercisus who was more explicit and bold before and during his martyrdom in order to make up for his apostasy. It's the appeal-to-authority fallacy all over. However, I will not return to a Church that is hypocritical, contradictory with its teachings, judgmental and abusive. If you would like to make a prayer request, please submit a comment in our weekly prayer request thread stickied at the top of the main page.. You can make a distinction between the state institution of marriage and the sacrament of matrimony and say "yes they can get married" which is technically correct bc the state can do what it wants for policy reasons and you're technically not committing apostasy and may be able to save your life. To subscribe to the National Catholic Register call 1-800-421-3230. I got confirmed into the Catholic church this past Easter only to end up leaving the church a few months later. Everyday there are abuse scandals that are being revealed, yet the Church hasn’t done anything. I never had a problem being gay myself. I started believing in a higher power/God/whatever you want to call it. I only decided to get involved because I guess it was in a way for me to get closer to my heritage. There was a Catholic who would come onto the Anglican reddit and argue with us all the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoulaehrD_I, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC_CpnwZPYM. Well, there is also the theological doctrines, moral teachings, and the culture to deal with. I don't think that example would hold up since the State is currently wrong about natural marriage, just as they in cases of adulterous "remarriage". 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